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the timeline released they knew ansar al-sharia surrounded the hospital. where did the video story come from? the things just aren't connected if they knew that. talk about the spoon feeding of the story. >> if you go to the video story, the next few days, we talk about susan right and what the president says but on september 25, he goes to the united states and does the video. the anti-islamic video six times in the speech. this is four hours after the attack. >> well, i think the administration is saying on the e-mail they got saying well, sort of speculation. >> c.i.a. timeline. they surrounded the hospital. the main problem with the story spoon fed. this is a diversion to answer questions nobody asked. not of concern really. david igancious is saying well, the c.i.a. bungled but there is no conspiracy. nobody said there was a conspiracy. they said incompetence and lying. that is a big difference between those things. so by saying there is no conspiracy, story is over. everybody move along. nobody says there is a conspiracy. >> bret: charles? >> it make
the timeline released they knew ansar al-sharia surrounded the hospital. where did the video story come from? the things just aren't connected if they knew that. talk about the spoon feeding of the story. >> if you go to the video story, the next few days, we talk about susan right and what the president says but on september 25, he goes to the united states and does the video. the anti-islamic video six times in the speech. this is four hours after the attack. >> well, i think the...
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affiliates lining ansar al-sharia. then, and then what what go out in the classified format. in terms of the public format they were concerned about getting situation where you are in an investigation and you create potential for a false confirmation. so if you say it's al qaeda and you are not 100% sure within 72 hours or so, at least by their logic they are saying they didn't want to put that out in the public so people wouldn't come back and say i heard it was al qaeda that's points number one. because clearp is the director of national intelligence. he's technically in charge of that process it got garbled. but this was done in the editing process. i heard clearp and his staff will be sharing all the e-mail traffic on the classified traffic with these lawmakers so they can explain this is how it happened. it was not -- what they are saying is it wasn't an example of white house politization. megyn: clapper has bent center of a lot of questions in this whole thing. as you know. you have been doing great reporting on
affiliates lining ansar al-sharia. then, and then what what go out in the classified format. in terms of the public format they were concerned about getting situation where you are in an investigation and you create potential for a false confirmation. so if you say it's al qaeda and you are not 100% sure within 72 hours or so, at least by their logic they are saying they didn't want to put that out in the public so people wouldn't come back and say i heard it was al qaeda that's points number...
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that more and more the cia knew that it was ansar al-sharia, a terrorist group. there were warnings they shouldn't even go to the hospital where they thought ambassador was being held and might be aeu lived because they believe ansar al-sharia might be outside of the hospital and there was a question about whether we could go there. the point is ansar al-sharia was written all over it and it's written all over it now and that is a terrorist group and yet the administration was talking about a video and talking about spontaneous mob violence. >> look, i think mistakes were made. i think that the administration is going to have to come up with a clear case of what actually happened there, but i think in this highly partisan environment right now no one believes what anybody says right now on either side. right now if you're a republican you believe what republican sources say, if you're a democrat you believe what democratic sources say. and i think that after the election we should have a full accounting of what actually happened there and people who made mistakes
that more and more the cia knew that it was ansar al-sharia, a terrorist group. there were warnings they shouldn't even go to the hospital where they thought ambassador was being held and might be aeu lived because they believe ansar al-sharia might be outside of the hospital and there was a question about whether we could go there. the point is ansar al-sharia was written all over it and it's written all over it now and that is a terrorist group and yet the administration was talking about a...
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al-sharia and my recollection was he was actually minimizing the role of ansar al-sharia. that's it, okay? i have to go. >> is the hearing over? >> yeah. martha: very interesting conversation with peter king who has just emerged from the hearing, the house intelligence hearing with general petraeus, with former director of the cia petraeus. basically the headline out of this is that peter king, who said several times that he considers general petraeus to be a friend, he says that clearly in the initial interview that they did with general petraeus hedown played the aspects of ansar al-sharia or involvement of al qaeda in the attack in benghazi and that today general petraeus suggested that he had always included the fact that he felt that al qaeda was involved and also talked about the video. we'll have a let more about this. a lot emerging this morning. we'll be joined by texas republican congressman louie gohmert who is calling for a special prosecutor to investigate the benghazi attack. bill: this is something that will be discussed and debated. we're just getting going
al-sharia and my recollection was he was actually minimizing the role of ansar al-sharia. that's it, okay? i have to go. >> is the hearing over? >> yeah. martha: very interesting conversation with peter king who has just emerged from the hearing, the house intelligence hearing with general petraeus, with former director of the cia petraeus. basically the headline out of this is that peter king, who said several times that he considers general petraeus to be a friend, he says that...
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whether they used names like al-qaeda or ansar al-sharia. i must say as i look at what we now know that the intelligence community was saying that week and i look to ambassador rice's statements on television on the following sunday morning i don't find anything inconsistent between those two. but i must tell you that i think we are focusing on questions that are not insignificantly but not the most significant. of course there was a terror attack. whether or not there was a protest before is interesting but not that critical to me. there was a terrorist attack. the question is who did it? and much more important for the long run why in the midst of a rising crescendo of intelligence that they clear al-qaeda and the ansar al-sharia, radical groups coming to eastern libya in the surrounding of benghazi did we leigh our state department personnel there without the security. why when they were attacked did the defense department not have ask security to come to their defense. >> chris: you hold closed door hearings with the top officials. someb
whether they used names like al-qaeda or ansar al-sharia. i must say as i look at what we now know that the intelligence community was saying that week and i look to ambassador rice's statements on television on the following sunday morning i don't find anything inconsistent between those two. but i must tell you that i think we are focusing on questions that are not insignificantly but not the most significant. of course there was a terror attack. whether or not there was a protest before is...
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he will start by saying indeed that he knew almost immediately after that it was ansar al sharia, but there was also confusion. he had about 20 intelligence reports linking the attacks to that video, that anti-islamic video. those reports were disproven, but not until after he had briefed capitol hill. all of this took some time to sort out. that's what he wants to lay out tomorrow. >> and barbara, if he knew, and i know you're saying there were conflicting reports, which we have heard before, but if he knew and he's going to say he knew almost immediately it was the work of an al qaeda link ed militia, can he explain why susan right went on five talk shows and was very clear? >> the way it's going to lay out is pretase will talk about the fact he had cia intelligence community approved talking points about what they believed, laying out some of the confusion, the different fact, but what they believed. as far as he knows we are told, susan rice may have gotten some information from some other part of the administration from other talking points. he's going stick to what he knew. adds
he will start by saying indeed that he knew almost immediately after that it was ansar al sharia, but there was also confusion. he had about 20 intelligence reports linking the attacks to that video, that anti-islamic video. those reports were disproven, but not until after he had briefed capitol hill. all of this took some time to sort out. that's what he wants to lay out tomorrow. >> and barbara, if he knew, and i know you're saying there were conflicting reports, which we have heard...
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(laughter) but al qaeda or one of al qaeda's able a. teams, the ansar al-sharia mud hens. (laughter) so susan rice met yesterday with senators mccain, graham and ayotte to clear the air. how did that go? >> ambassador rice i think does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get concerning evidence that was overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate. >> jon: here's the deal: they may be right. though on the scale of public misstatements, rice's comments seem to fall more for the embarrassing evidence of institutional disorganization end of the scale. (laughter) but here's the thing: these two don't get to be the ones who self-righteously get angry about this. they're upset she may have passed bad intel, wittingly or unwittingly to the american people. remember these two from a decade ago? >> saddam hussein continues to acquire, amass, and improve on his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. he continues to acquire -- att
(laughter) but al qaeda or one of al qaeda's able a. teams, the ansar al-sharia mud hens. (laughter) so susan rice met yesterday with senators mccain, graham and ayotte to clear the air. how did that go? >> ambassador rice i think does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get concerning evidence that was overwhelming leading up to the attack...
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is that he was minimizing the role of ansar al sharia. that's it. >> is the hearing over? >> yeah. >> we want to back up a little bit to let you know what's been going on. d disgraced cia director david petraeus has been testifying this morning in front of the house committee on benghazi. also on the agenda, was there a cove cover-up? did the general know from the get-go that the benghazi attack was terrorist related? you heard the date mentioned in that press conference, september 14th. it didn't seem like it on september 14th when the then cia director petraeus briefed lawmakers on what happened. here is how congressman dutch ruppersber gechlt r described that back in september. >> we had a meeting with director petraeus, giving us a chronological order exactly what we felt happened, how it happened and where we're going in the future. in the beginning we feel it was spontaneous. the protest t went on for two or three hours, which was very relevant. if it was something that was planned, they could have come and attacked right away. >> a
is that he was minimizing the role of ansar al sharia. that's it. >> is the hearing over? >> yeah. >> we want to back up a little bit to let you know what's been going on. d disgraced cia director david petraeus has been testifying this morning in front of the house committee on benghazi. also on the agenda, was there a cove cover-up? did the general know from the get-go that the benghazi attack was terrorist related? you heard the date mentioned in that press conference,...
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ansar al-sharia had made threats. the hospital was surround where the ambassador's body was. >> you know they couldn't go get the ambassador's body because the hospital was surround by people from ansar al-sharia, you know that this was not an attack over a video. it's basic information that they had. and now i think what the president's statements -- the other web set up such a strawman. don't go after the susan rice, come after me. everyone has been trying to talk to you about this. everyone has been trying to ask you questions and you keep saying you can't talk about it because there is an investigation going on. pretending people are going after susan rice because they think she is an easy target when people would be happy to talk to the president about this. megyn: there is a question about why we haven't heard from her since. if for no other reason than to say i said way was told to say. you will have to take it up with my boss. she has been in the wind nine weeks after the fact. can you stand by? we were going
ansar al-sharia had made threats. the hospital was surround where the ambassador's body was. >> you know they couldn't go get the ambassador's body because the hospital was surround by people from ansar al-sharia, you know that this was not an attack over a video. it's basic information that they had. and now i think what the president's statements -- the other web set up such a strawman. don't go after the susan rice, come after me. everyone has been trying to talk to you about this....
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they name al-qaeda. name ansar al-sharia attacked our consulate. c.i.a. has a timeline and al-qaeda there and terrorism there. petraeus out there saying it's the video. pensacolpanetta is saying it's e video. this is terrorism. this is the biggest coverup since watergate. >> bob: why do you suggest it's a coverup? >> eric: they all report to white house, bob. they department to department of justice and the white house. >> you are missing the point. the main point is why do they have a coverup and why do they have to have a fairy tale about the video? why? because five days before september 11, president obama was at the democratic convention and said al-qaeda is on its heels. bin laden is dead. so five days later you had al-qaeda and terrorist group with successful attack on american soil -- >> bob: it was not al-qaeda be. clear about this. every one has the moniker of al-qaeda. >> kimberly: a.q. affiliate, bob. >> bob: there are not badges for it. >> greg: obama said al-qaeda on its heels was they were cross dressing. >> bob: they are on their heels. ba
they name al-qaeda. name ansar al-sharia attacked our consulate. c.i.a. has a timeline and al-qaeda there and terrorism there. petraeus out there saying it's the video. pensacolpanetta is saying it's e video. this is terrorism. this is the biggest coverup since watergate. >> bob: why do you suggest it's a coverup? >> eric: they all report to white house, bob. they department to department of justice and the white house. >> you are missing the point. the main point is why do...
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qaedd ally ansar al-sharia from the white house situatton room as the 7-hour battle took plaae. three times theee wwre pleas to send help from the cia detachment a mile awwa. each was denied. only the president has the authhrity to approve such requeets. presidenn obama allowed four americans to die. for what was ddreliction oo duty.for is more on thii tory vvsit behind the headllnes dot net. and foolow us twitter and facebook. it's oysternomics 101. you start with a u.s. senator named ben. by helping restore thousands of acres of oyster beds, he kept hundreds of oystermen on the job... which keeps wholesalers in business... and that means more delivery companies... making deliveries to more restaurants... which hire more workers. and that means more oystermen. it's like he's out here with us. he's my friend, ben. i hope he's your friend, too. i'm ben cardin, and i approved this message. relievvd group of baltimmre ravens who got off theteam's phaatterflight ast niggt...aft houston and then a byeewwek, the ravens reallyneeded a win to get thinns back on track... worked out.... o
qaedd ally ansar al-sharia from the white house situatton room as the 7-hour battle took plaae. three times theee wwre pleas to send help from the cia detachment a mile awwa. each was denied. only the president has the authhrity to approve such requeets. presidenn obama allowed four americans to die. for what was ddreliction oo duty.for is more on thii tory vvsit behind the headllnes dot net. and foolow us twitter and facebook. it's oysternomics 101. you start with a u.s. senator named ben. by...
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al sharia had claimed responsibility, a terrorist group, and for the administration to put her out there and also in her role as a u.n. ambassador, why are you putting me out there versus the secretary of state or the cia or even leon panetta. >> does this tell you it is cover-up or conspiracy? are we talking about a major cover-up that we are defeating al qaeda or simply just pretty poor performance by all of the people up the line in dealing with this attack? >> well, it is why we need to get to the bottom of all of the questions that i identified earlier and it is one of two thingsb and you have said it, it is either blatant incompetence or misleading the american people. so i would like to know the facts so that we will know exactly what happened and most of all make sure it does not happen again. we had four brave americans murdered, and frankly, their families deserve answers, and the american people deserve answers on this to make sure that we get to the bottom of it and it does not happen again. >> thank you so much indeed for joining me. >> thank you, piers. >>> i want to bring
al sharia had claimed responsibility, a terrorist group, and for the administration to put her out there and also in her role as a u.n. ambassador, why are you putting me out there versus the secretary of state or the cia or even leon panetta. >> does this tell you it is cover-up or conspiracy? are we talking about a major cover-up that we are defeating al qaeda or simply just pretty poor performance by all of the people up the line in dealing with this attack? >> well, it is why we...
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al-sharia when there is strong evidence of the involvement. if the chairwoman was getting advice about the question to ask, the question you have been asking since september 11. >> greg: incredible. do you think hillary got herself far enough away from this thing? she is in australia. feed her wine and we might get more facts from her slightly tipsy than anybody else. my fear about this thing is that after confusing event like this, if you don't get the true facts, you almost never do. we are still talking about the j.f.k. assassination because of the warren commission. if we don't get clarity, we will get the history and truth from a half-baked hbo tv show. in which susan rice is the hero played by halle berry and it will make no sense. >> dana: what must it be like to be david petraeus tonight know leg has gone from a major hero in history. it doesn't take away from his accomplishments what he achieved and what happened with the extra marital affair. he goes to congress as a civilian, first time he has done that. he will tell them what he kn
al-sharia when there is strong evidence of the involvement. if the chairwoman was getting advice about the question to ask, the question you have been asking since september 11. >> greg: incredible. do you think hillary got herself far enough away from this thing? she is in australia. feed her wine and we might get more facts from her slightly tipsy than anybody else. my fear about this thing is that after confusing event like this, if you don't get the true facts, you almost never do. we...
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it wasn't 48 hours after the attack when the white house knew that ansar al-sharia attacked the consulate but less than four hours that they knew who was responsible and yet mr. president you continued to say "the view" and letterman that you were investigating and you talked about the video and you continued to apologize to the arab world. not only do we know that ambassador stevens was afraid for his safety and he wasn't sure that he would even live through 9/11, but he sent a cable at 6:43 a.m. on september 11th that morning saying that libyans who were part of the police mission were photographing the mission inside. and hillary even before that cables notified you on august 16 that security was trending negatively and that there was a concern that the libyan militia, charged with protecting the consulate, had been compromised. even infiltrated by extremists and that approximately 10 islamist militias and al-qaeda training camps were known to operate around benghazi. and yet you, hillary, continued to talk about a video that no one besides you ever heard of. >> the united states gover
it wasn't 48 hours after the attack when the white house knew that ansar al-sharia attacked the consulate but less than four hours that they knew who was responsible and yet mr. president you continued to say "the view" and letterman that you were investigating and you talked about the video and you continued to apologize to the arab world. not only do we know that ambassador stevens was afraid for his safety and he wasn't sure that he would even live through 9/11, but he sent a cable...
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he believes it was the al qaeda sympathizer group ansar al sharia that was responsible for the attacks. >> so the question, barbara, is he is convinced that the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi had nothing, nothing to do with that anti-muslim video that'd been posted on youtube, that this was a terrorist attack by this al qaeda affiliated organization. the question is though, when did he reach that final conclusion? did he know that before susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations went on those five sunday shows and insisted what happened in benghazi was the result of spontaneous anger from that anti-muslim video? >> all the i can tell you, wolf, is this source says the intelligence reports that came in blaming the video, those 20 or so reports, this source says petraeus had those reports disproved over time after he testified or rather briefed the committees on capitol hill. when he looks at what susan rice said, here is what petraeus' take is according to my source. petraeus developed some talking points laying it all out. those talking points as always were appro
he believes it was the al qaeda sympathizer group ansar al sharia that was responsible for the attacks. >> so the question, barbara, is he is convinced that the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi had nothing, nothing to do with that anti-muslim video that'd been posted on youtube, that this was a terrorist attack by this al qaeda affiliated organization. the question is though, when did he reach that final conclusion? did he know that before susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the...
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that could include a range of people including al-qaeda but, of course, we know that ansar al-sharia in libya has someda. it's not clear they were taking directions from al-qaeda. but the difference between saying specifically we know this was an al-qaeda attack, or extremists. they did not say we know it's al-qaeda there. indications it might be al-qaeda. that is the difference. semantics but to some people it's now the point of great controversy. >> shannon: if we are talking about changing a word, al-qaeda to extremist that thing what about the video? who included that? >> it's not that there was one word change. al-qaeda became extremist. that would be irrelevant. the story she told was a false narrative. it was about a mob inspired by a video. we know, herron reported that the f.b.i. knew two days earlier by asking ones who had been in libya and the ones we evacuated. i mean in the benghazi consulate. we evacuated them. they were on the scene. they saw what happened. they told the f.b.i. there was no demonstration at all. it's a fiction. so the whole story she told, demonstratio
that could include a range of people including al-qaeda but, of course, we know that ansar al-sharia in libya has someda. it's not clear they were taking directions from al-qaeda. but the difference between saying specifically we know this was an al-qaeda attack, or extremists. they did not say we know it's al-qaeda there. indications it might be al-qaeda. that is the difference. semantics but to some people it's now the point of great controversy. >> shannon: if we are talking about...
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and a second group ansar al-sharia? how does that time frame match up with the administration's statements that it was in fact a demonstration that was spontaneous in response to the anti-islam video? and third, why was it that the state department denied repeated requests from ambassador stevens in benghazi along with his staff for additional security specifically, a classified briefing in august that determined the consulate could not withstand a coordinated attack from groups like al qaeda and as well as ansar al-sharia? for some context the people who are testifying today this is the top of the u.s. intelligence community as well as the law enforcement community. we have the director of national intelligence, the acting cia director. we also have a top deputy from the fbi. an undersecretary from the state department in addition to the head of the national counterterrorism center. this is the nation's hub for threat assessments in this country. what is most eagerly anticipated is the testimony of former cia director
and a second group ansar al-sharia? how does that time frame match up with the administration's statements that it was in fact a demonstration that was spontaneous in response to the anti-islam video? and third, why was it that the state department denied repeated requests from ambassador stevens in benghazi along with his staff for additional security specifically, a classified briefing in august that determined the consulate could not withstand a coordinated attack from groups like al qaeda...
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barbara starr tells us that petraeus is staying that he knew almost immediately that ansar al sharia, a terrorist group, was responsib responsible. but he was also seeing separate streams of intelligence that did suggest that protests over that video we've all talked about were involved. how do you hope the general clears this up? what do you need to hear from him here? >> well, i think we know the answer to this. because we have the films. and the films do not show any protests whatsoever. what, in fact, did occur, was the same the same attack that our ambassador there feared. what happened was that those al qaeda affiliates that he had requested support and security personnel to help defend against, did, indeed, attack the compound. so i believe what will come out of this is a much more clear understanding of how in preparation for this attack our personnel on the ground made repeated requests. and i think the other aspect that we're going to learn more about is why a firefight that lasted six hours occurred without reinforcements coming in from tripoli. why the rapid reaction force
barbara starr tells us that petraeus is staying that he knew almost immediately that ansar al sharia, a terrorist group, was responsib responsible. but he was also seeing separate streams of intelligence that did suggest that protests over that video we've all talked about were involved. how do you hope the general clears this up? what do you need to hear from him here? >> well, i think we know the answer to this. because we have the films. and the films do not show any protests...
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others were associated with also extremist group called ansar al sharia. others were just kind of freelance extremists. others seem to have been along for the ride and looted the compound. and they don't have evidence that even the most extreme people had planned the attack they bragged about how they watched the cairo demonstrations on t.v., talked about what happened in cairo before they made this attack so there is some reason that the analysts thought this might have a spontaneous ad hoc aspect to it. one person in the intelligence community told me a couple weeks ago this was a flash mob with heavy weapons. just kind of came together and bank were there some people who had been planning it for a while? there may have been but at this point they don't have the evidence that would prove that. >> rose: what else did petraeus say in the testimony that we know about a lot of this has been kept secret but he walked through his own trip to libya in the week before his resignation under pressure he had gone to north africa, gone to egypt and also gone to liby
others were associated with also extremist group called ansar al sharia. others were just kind of freelance extremists. others seem to have been along for the ride and looted the compound. and they don't have evidence that even the most extreme people had planned the attack they bragged about how they watched the cairo demonstrations on t.v., talked about what happened in cairo before they made this attack so there is some reason that the analysts thought this might have a spontaneous ad hoc...
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al sharia, a militant group claimed responsibility. all of that was not mentioned so there are just so many questions to be asked and many people who know things that they need to tell us. you know, the intelligence committee is able to get information that other committees don't have access to. so, the administration has to be straight up with us. they don't have an excuse for trying not to tell us the truth. >> mike: you mentioned hillary clinton, secretary of state. do you expect she would be called to testify and would you expect her to do so. >> she may be called by another committee. technically her department is not under our jurisdiction in the intelligence community. we're the intelligence community strictly, but i assume that other committees may call her. as to what she will do, i don't know. again, you can subpoena people. this is just an unfortunate situation that we're looking at right now. the timing of the resignation is very curious and we've got to get to the bottom of all of it, find out the truth of what really happ
al sharia, a militant group claimed responsibility. all of that was not mentioned so there are just so many questions to be asked and many people who know things that they need to tell us. you know, the intelligence committee is able to get information that other committees don't have access to. so, the administration has to be straight up with us. they don't have an excuse for trying not to tell us the truth. >> mike: you mentioned hillary clinton, secretary of state. do you expect she...